INTERVIEW TO MARCO RIGAMONTI
– EUROPEAN CITIZENS REAL SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE –
Observing the european people and listening to their voices, it’s not possible to deny that actually, never occured the will of governments being so antitethical to population’s.
Months are passed, since european governments decided to send weapons to Kiev against Russia, but it seems that nothing would be so far to european citizens sentiments.
To gather a witness about this shared sentiment between the european population, we interviewed Marco Rigamonti, Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion – Ordre de la Rose-Croix Véritas, a well known cultural and spiritual association of chivalric inspiration. Many of the readers probably knew about the Priory of Sion by the famous novel by Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code.
According to chronicles, the Prieuré de Sion is a cultural association founded by Pierre Plantard in 1956 and dissolved by the same in 2001 to be later reconstituted just in 2015. Its first public appearance after reconstitution therefore happened just after 14 years, in Rennes Le Château, an occitan, french village, traditionally linked to this knightly Order, during an event in which the current Grand Master, Marco Rigamonti, made a donation to the Municipality on behalf of the association, in order to contribute to the restoration of the vandalized churc’s statue.
As the spiritual leader and President of a very popular and well rooted international cultural association, mostly present throughout Europe, Marco Rigamonti felt the desire to express his testimony and chose our newspaper to do so.
IN: Welcome and thank you for releasing this interview.
MR: It’s me that i feel grateful, as your newspaper offers me the opportunity to let Russia now about what is going on here for true, between the population.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, can you explain to our readers why you need the help of a foreign media to express your thoughts and considerations about the actual international crisis?
MR: Thanks for having asked it. Unfortunately, we are witness of a very dark as dangerous historical conjuncture for the whole Europe, and we can see it very easily by the level of roughness and arrogance, censorship and indimidation are forwarded to whoever expresses a critical opinion to the decisions european governments took in its support to Ukraine against Russia.
IN: Can you give us more details about this?
MR: I can start mentioning that a shameful “ban list” was published to demonize any public figure who criticized government’s decisions about fueling the conflict in Ukraine by sending weapons to Kiev. One of the biggest magazines in Italy, the “Corriere Della Sera”, published a list of intellectuals, accusing them to be a sort of country’s betrayers serving Moscow, just because they disagree with N.AT.O.’s and governments behavior against Russia. I believe that this thing is of an extreme and unprecedented gravity, at least since the Second World War. Those lists are meant to isolate who is in disagreement with the decisions of who is in charge at the Government and it’s clearly meant to expose those people to the danger of reprisals.
IN: I think this propaganda mechanism is very clear, but what do you think is the common feeling of european citizens, actually?
MR: I live in Italy, but i can say that also in the other european countries i see a significant loss of trust from the people toward the political parties and institutions. In Italy we had elections a few days ago and we just had a 20% (between having rthe right) of the population that went to vote. It has no precedent in history such a negative record. I could add that this record was so negative, to seem grotesque. We never had less than 42% of people going to vote, between the ones having the right to.
IN: How do you explain such a miserable turnout?
MR: There are many factors leading to this situation. We could start remembering that the last important referendum in Italy was 10 years ago, it was to keep the water a public good and to prevent it to be privatized. There was an huge participation with the 54% of the voters having right, that voted to keep the water public, with the 94% of the votations, but this referendum was completely betrayed by the following governments and the will of the citizens was trempled without much compliments, allowing the water to get privatized. So since that day, by the absurd increasing of the water bills, was completely clear to the vast majority of the population, that when it comes to monetary interests of the big companies, the people has no tools to exercise the supposed democratic authority, which definitely is actually clear to be a total farce.
We could continue mentioning that all the parties that were at the head of the “opposition”, like the biggest one of them, the “Movimento 5 Stelle, defrauded the voters by setting up its campaign as an Anti-Euro party and declaring to be for Italy’s exit from the European Union, to then instead become the first party to support Bruxelles in its every will and whim, betraying the electorate in a way that defining indecent is really an understatement. Those are just some examples why people doesn’t respects anymore the parties which are at the government and why we don’t trust institutions also, anymore.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, you are saying that political parties like Movimento 5 Stelle promised to bring Italy out of Euro and out of the European Union and ended up in being just another support to it?
MR: Yes, exactly. To say it all, Movimento 5 Stelle was the crucial support to pro-Euro governments that came then, by helping them without any hesitation through any decision that came from Bruxelles. It seemed like the intention was to gather the votes of the people that was against globalism and European Union to put them in a political party that indeed neutralized those votes, because it’s not illegal to betray electoral promises, though it’s something so ignoble and indecent.
IN: How do you think european citizens reacts to the decisions of european government’s leaders like Emmanuel Macron, Mario Draghi or Olaf Scholz, to give military support to Ukraine against Russia by sending weapons to Kyev?
MR: In any european country there is a generalized revulsion for any initiative that could expand the conflict or worsen it. In Italy it’s even mentioned in our Constitution Chart, Art. 11 “Italy repudiates war”. Unfortunately we are in hands of people that are not responding to people’s interests, that’s why common sentiments are not just unlistened but even persecuted fiercely. I can list many initiatives and manifestations by italian people, that went on strike to express their disapproval to the sending of weapons to Ukraine, but they were always put under a disgusting light by the media, that are actually so fake and aligned to this warmongering agenda to be revolting as would be difficult even to imagine till few months ago.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, would it be plausible to say that italian media are pushing people to support this war made by N.A.T.O. to Russia through Ukraine?
MR: i think this is absolutely correct. As Russia’s Foreign Minister of Russia Sergey Lavrov said, this is a war made to Russia through european countries and using Ukraine as battle field. In this moment, major media are just trying to brainwash people as much as they can, to convince them that fighting Russia would be legitimate to defend Kiev and Europe itself. Personally i consider this warmongering propaganda a war crime to instigate the population to war by conditioning it with deception. Living in Italy, i can say we always had a wonderful, constructive relationship with russian people. Many of them came in Italy regularly for their business or just for holiday, they are perceived by population as kind, pleasant people, so compatible with our values and lifestyle.
Many Italians were ashamed when Di Maio, the worst Foreign Minister we ever had, who before becoming a politician was really a street vendor at the stadium, expelled their diplomats, explaining why for some years now in Italy, idiots and uncapable people to be systematically placed in key government places.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, could you explain me in detail, why you think that the Euro and European Union are so hated in Italy and why people would abandon them?
MR: We should go back to 1981, when the Bank of Italy “divorced” to the Ministry of the Treasure. Before this, the so called “public debt” never was a problem, as its just the way governments finance itself and the only way for a State to flourish economically and industrially. “Public Debt” that is a virtual debt the State owes ti itself, became a real problem with the Euro, as it is a currency designed to make the “public debt” a debt for real to be payed back to private markets. This was in my opinion a real financial golpe, and the beginning of the downhill for Italy, that was before that moment, the 4th country in Europe for wealth and industrial expansion. Many of the highest personalities that worked in apical positions at the Ministry of Budget and Economic Planning during that period, wrotes this concept in different essays still studied at University, i am talking, for instance, about Nino Galloni or his mentor Federico Caffé (Banca D’Italia) , which literature is widely available both in english as in italian language.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, have you heard President Vladimir Putin’s speech at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum? Could you give us a comment about it?
MR: Yes, i was delighted and relieved to ear such an enlightened vision of things and i completely agree with President Vladimir Putin about United States of America being a power on the downhill, that treats its allies like colonies. I would also add, that another force which is pushing Europe to war is United Kingdom, that is doing big pressure to european countries to fuel the conflict in Ukraine, because their strategists understood that this could put it in a position of power toward any european country, by making U.K. the preferential “bridge” between U.S.A and Europe.
IN: Mr. Rigamonti, what do you think people in Europe should know about the actual international situation?
MR: I think that if we want to end up war and establish a durable peace, for first we need people to be aware that despite what major media says, the largest majority of population is completely against this war and, most important thing, what any single european citizen wants is crucial to establish peace – it’s not just a “drop in the sea” – because we are the majority to desire the war to finish and we don’t have to leave to the govrnments the alibi of saying the people are cohesive with whatever they decide, when they are just trampling on our will. We urge to evidence how this fact is undeniable, so european governments will be forced to obey the people’s will, just as our consitution charts declares.
IN: Thank you very much, Mr. Rigamonti, for this interview.
MR: Thanks to you, it was a real pleasure to me.